"I worked in the 'setting gangs' that set raw materials and then they burnt them off. 2200 degrees of heat....It was hard work. I was called in the setting crew a gigger.

A gigger was a person who brought stuff that was shipped down to the dryers, we'd  take it off the elevators and pulled it to the kiln, see. It might be a short haul or it might be a long haul. And if you had a long haul, then you didn't cut grass that day.

"It was hard work. Fast, fast work. Tonnage, ya know, tonnage.  You get paid for so much a ton. Then, in [plant] number two, you work on the belt and facing brick. They'd be small and you'd have to load them up on cars and usually about three or four people unloading them....We had a good time, you know, we played around. We had to because it was hard work. We didn't even last all day it was that hard. Fast and heavy. Them conduits is heavy."

"You worked hard. You started at 7 and you got a ten minute break at 9:00 and you worked until 11:30. You had a 45 minute lunch, you went back worked till 2 you had a little break and then you worked till 4."

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